Hawkeye & Mockingbird #1
Tag: mcu
Is the fact that Bucky is Jewish canon? Cus I never heard that, but that’s so so cool
Pretty sure it’s not canon, but it’s got quite a bit of fanon support.
I am fully on-board with the MCU Bucky being a Bucky Barnes/Arnie Roth combo character as far as backgrounds go.
Personally, I figured Buck for another primarily Irish-stock kid, albeit better off financially and less fresh from the boat than the Rogers family, but I wouldn’t be in fandom if I didn’t love different character interpretations, and Jewish Bucky is totally valid, especially if you take the Roth influence into account.
One of the most interesting aspects of the Captain America lore, to me, is how often Cap has been mythologized in his own universe. In the earliest comics, Bucky is the child companion to super-soldier Steve Rogers. Which is… kind of bizarre and creepy given the WWII context? It didn’t take long for other writers to realize this, so in later iterations — like the Waid or Brubaker runs, for example — Bucky being a kid is ret-conned, except it’s framed in a way that doesn’t invalidate the earliest Cap stories. Rather, they’re treated as sanitized versions of the “real” story, which is that Bucky was either a war photographer who befriended Steve and/or at least 16 when he was sent out to accompany Captain America as an orphan who was raised on-base to become a specialist in scouting and wet-works, who did things in the dark that an icon like Cap wasn’t allowed to do in the light. SUBTEXT.
The result is a pretty amusing comics meta, where we get to see the “real” Bucky complain about his 40’s GEE WHIZ, CAP portrayal on-screen — or rather, on-panel — and in the MCU, we get to see kids grabbing at Captain America comic books generated while Steve is on his publicity tours, which are in fact reproductions of the actual Captain America Comics #1.
Published in our world in 1941, and yeah, he’s totally punching Hitler. Did I say meta? IT’S ALL VERY META.
Another example of an in-universe non-ret-con is when WWII ended and Steve Rogers was floundering as a character (what to do with a Hitler-puncher when you have no Hitlers to punch?) but the Cold War was gearing up and McCarthyism was hot, so the best (??? lol) way to make him relevant was to go anti-Communism. Cap was even billed as CAPTAIN AMERICA, COMMIE-SMASHER!! before the title was altogether cancelled in the 50’s.
When Stan Lee revived him in the 60’s, he decided that the REAL Steve Rogers had been frozen since WWII, and the Anti-Commie 50’s Cap was an impostor.
But wait, this was about Bucky.
So, in none of the non-MCU iterations was Bucky actually Steve’s BFF from childhood. As of 1982, Steve DID have a childhood bestie, though. Arnold Roth. They met as weakling kids getting their respective asses handed to them in back alleys, then Arnie was like, “Screw this, I’m going to take up boxing.” So he did. And he got buff and used his new buffness to protect the still-sickly Steve Rogers from bullies on the daily. Thus continued their Best Friends Ever relationship, to the point where Steve considered the Roths a second family, and Arnold his biffle big bro. Also, Arnie developed a girl-chasing Romeo persona during their teens. I’m sure you can all see the parallels here.
However. The lady-killer rep was due to Arnold realizing he was gay and trying to over-compensate to hide his real desires, resulting in him eventually drifting apart from the more quiet Steve.
He later joined the Navy during WWII, and a whole bunch of other junk happened, (GAMBLING! ABDUCTION! DEATH! FRIENDSHIP!) but 616 Arnie Roth is canon Jewish and canon Steve’s larger, stronger, brunet age-mate protector. Make of it what you will.
Amazing Avengers art by the awesome tuxedos.deviantart.com.
The artist also has a tumblr account: thetuxedos.tumblr.com
I think her Clint is my favourite ever. Had it as my phone background for ages.
Why did they even tell us that much in advance? Are they trying to kill us with anticipation?
“ And I can laugh; because I have known sadness. “
even though it’s something they both did, even something as seemingly small as the partying thing reveals a completely different psychological profile from the two characters
like 616 tony partied because he drank. he drank because he’s an alcoholic. he’s an alcoholic (at least in part) because drinking was attempt to self medicate for his MAJOR DEPRESSIVE DISORDER that boils down to tony being pathologically self-loathing
mcu tony partied because he was empty because- despite all his money and power and genius- he couldn’t connect with people which could’ve been a result of shitty parenting but it also seems like it could possibly be narcissistic or possibly borderline personality disorder
#ye s #also with mcu tony it could be that his intellect was also a huge factor in him not being able to connect with other people #his genius would drive wedges between himself and other kids esp when he was young #now 616 tony has teh same intellect but he also had a friend in ty as a kid #and an alcoholic abusive father would’ve ingrained lack of self-worth in him #that would also fuel his depression #but 616 tony did have a friend and combined with his lack of self worth lead to parties and drinking #theres no indication of a friend like ty in mcu tony #maybe mcu tony had friends but they were all probs gunning for his money even when he was a kid #plus being constantly told that hes a genius but his dad constantly keeping him at a distance #remember we dont have proof that mcu tony’s dad was as abusive as 616 #but mcu howard never once told tony he loved him #and thats where mcu tony’s partying roots lie from i think #mcu tony craving attention and affection from other ppl really #plus his high level of intellect again could fuel any sort of narcissism thats already there (esp in a rich white man) #so yeah 616 and mcu tony same person different creatures #oops did i meta tony in the tags i guess i kinda did……. (via krusca)
Nathan Edmondson (you know, the current writer for the Black Widow solo comic who is also incredibly amazing) wrote a six-page intro for a potential Black Widow script and posted it on his website.
It is everything I have ever wanted. It’s perfect.
read this. read this right now.
THIS NEEDS TO GET INTO MY EYEHOLES IMMEDIATELY
Captain Marvel has just finished. The credits have rolled, the casuals have left the building. The music swells, then fades. Cut to a close up of a wall. A Captain Marvel poster is stuck up on it. Pull back to reveal a young Muslim girl putting that poster on her wall.
can you talk about steve’s possessive streak :P
YES PLEASE.
Okay, so first of all: in the interest of full disclosure, I really like the idea of possessive Steve. I have no trouble seeing him develop this trait. If you do, that’s cool. Also, this got super rambly.
But. Here’s the thing. Steve Rogers is 1) very protective 2) incredibly hurt.
These Walls Are Paper Thin (13534 words) by IamShadow21 [AO3]
Fandom: The Avengers (Marvel Movies), Captain America (Movies), Thor (Movies), Marvel Cinematic Universe, Iron Man (Movies), Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (TV), The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Category: Gen
Characters: Bruce Banner, Hulk (Marvel), Tony Stark, Jemma Simmons, Leo Fitz, Betty Ross, Thor (Marvel), Steve Rogers, Clint Barton, Natasha Romanov, Nick Fury
Additional Tags: Post-Avengers (2012), Iron Man 3 Compliant, Thor: The Dark World Compliant, Captain America: The Winter Soldier Compliant, Character Study, Teambuilding, Multiple Personalities, Multiple Selves, Multiplicity/Plurality, Communication, Past Child Abuse, Past Domestic Violence, Past Relationship(s), Gen Work, Canon Compliant, Pre-Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Drowning, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder – PTSD, Social Anxiety, Marvel Universe Big Bang, Marvel Universe Big Bang 2014, Friendship, Team as Family, Team Bonding, SHIELD, Anger, System Management, Coping, Food, Cooking, Pancakes, Meditation, Moving In Together, Injury Recovery, Recovery, Mind Control Aftermath & Recovery, Deaf, Deaf Character, Deaf Clint, Deaf Clint Barton, Hearing aids, Science, Science Bros, Science Boyfriends, Domestic Avengers, Avengers Tower, Skype, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Fanart
Summary: When most people think of Bruce Banner and The Hulk, they think of it as an either/or situation and assume that it’s easy to tell who they’re face to face with.
Most people are wrong.
Hey guys! My Marvel Bang fic that I wrote in June is FINALLY live! Go read it, look at my baby’s gorgeous art, and if you like it, please comment or kudos!
These Walls Are Paper Thin (13534 words) by IamShadow21 [AO3]
