
ruffboijuliaburnsides:
taibhsearachd:
naamahdarling:
i-ran-over-the-easter-bunny:
bjornwilde:
Or you should lose weight and we’ll run tests again.
I get that doctors can be assholes sometimes, but y’all making fun of people from a stance where you know jack shit about medicine compared to them
Like did a doctor say this to your face? Say that you were faking? Or were you assuming because you misinterpreted something you don’t understand?
If a doctor asks “are you SURE about xyz” it’s not because they think you’re faking, it’s because many times a patient will hold back information without realizing it and, as you ask the question again, they may remember something that they didn’t the first time.
Like idk about the specific events around the OP, and in no way am I saying that there aren’t manipulative and abusive doctors out there, but people tend to misunderstand things that they don’t know very well.
Yeah, patients do frequently get told that it’s psychological, psychosomatic, due to stress*, etc. Like, that is a really common experience people with chronic illness have, or people with “weird” illnesses like chronic fatigue, Lyme, EDS, etc.
And alas, people with weird mystery illnesses or chronic illnesses *do* often know more about their illnesses than the average GP. GPs are trained to identify and diagnose horses. They aren’t prepared for unicorns, and some think they don’t even exist.
It’s not even manipulation or abuse, it’s just being lazy, or not having the right training and not wanting to GET the right training. An ignorant doctor can do just as much damage as a malicious one.
* “Due to stress” is VALID, stress can make you very very sick, but when a doctor wants to just leave it there instead of treating it, well, that’s shitty.
I put this in tags before, but fuck it. Never mind being accused of faking it, I have had a doctor straight-up tell me, about my cardiac and neurological symptoms that have made it impossible for me to work or leave the house alone, “Huh. That’s weird. Unfortunately, we can’t do anything about that…”
No tests were run. No blood tests, no drug tests, no scans, not even a tilt-table test or the knock-off “sit down for a few minutes and then stand up while we take your blood pressure and heartrate” version of a tilt-table test that would have very quickly indicated that something is very wrong. They didn’t even suggest a referral to a specialist, the bare minimum you could do if you don’t know what the fuck you’re looking at. I’ve been suffering from a chronic, disabling condition since I was seventeen, and only now, twelve years later, have I begun to find someone who will listen and acknowledge that yeah, that’s actually a thing you’re dealing with and a problem.
Yeah, some doctors are good at their jobs. Some doctors give a shit. Some of them literally don’t listen to anything you say, and wave you off like your life-ruining symptoms are nothing, and just want you out of their office as soon as possible. All the medical training in the world doesn’t help when the person with that training fails at empathy, at listening to the people in front of them and hearing what they’re saying and acknowledging that this is a fucking human who is suffering and fixing that is literally their entire job.
“You’re probably not actually sick” or “that’s weird but I can’t fix it” is never an acceptable response, and fuck you for suggesting that chronically ill people don’t understand they’re being dismissed when almost all of us have dealt with it for literal years before we even begin to understand what’s wrong with us.
#look my stepmom is a doctor #i have a very dear friend who is in med school and I’m sure she’ll be great #but oh my god I hate doctors at large #and I have developed this hatred over years of being ignored and abused #‘maybe you misunderstood what they were saying…’ #BITE ME
I am lucky enough that my chronic illnesses are really easy to diagnose and understand for GPs: psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. Also depression, but thankfully when you go in saying “I have depression, I have tried these prescriptions, please try me on this other prescription” most GPs will kind of go “eh, okay.” I have visible signs of psoriasis, and arthritis is pretty easy to get doctors to pay attention to, even when you’re only 25 years old.
On the other hand, we have my wife, @taibhsearachd, who explained her position above. She’s had some SERIOUS BULLSHIT going on since she was 17 years old, I have been personally privy to it, and I have accompanied her to 99% of her doctor’s appointments, and despite BOTH our best efforts at getting doctors to listen – seriously, ME FROM THE OUTSIDE explaining shit that I could VISIBLY OBSERVE – we still got shit like, and I reiterate that this is literally what we were told, “Huh, that’s weird, too bad we can’t do anything about it”. Without ANYTHING BEING TESTED AT ALL.
And like, even for shit that should be easier to deal with, like “i’ve been diagnosed with clinical depression and my antidepressants don’t work anymore and I need a new one”, I’ve LITERALLY WITNESSED a goddamn doctor dismiss her request for a prescription with the statement “You’re too pretty to be depressed”
Some doctors are good. But unfortunately MANY OF THEM are fucking shit at their jobs. They, like the girl in the cubicle behind me plans on doing, became doctors for the money or prestige, or just don’t give a shit about things they’re not interested in, or WHAT THE FUCK EVER, and they are BAD AT THEIR JOBS and they ACTIVELY AVOID HELPING PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY NEED THEIR HELP.
And that is a goddamn FACT.
Your daily reminder that dismissal of women’s reported symptoms in health situations straight up kills them.
Also, your regular reminder that if a marginalised person who has experienced discrimination says, “You’re hurting me”, your response should never be, “No, I’m not.” It should be, “Oh shit, I should listen to your words and not do that again.” Otherwise, you’re deliberately making the choice to perpetuate the harm against a vulnerable person, and that makes you an abuser. If your response is, “maybe you imagined it/misinterpreted the situation/exaggerated it”, you’re gaslighting them, and are an abuser. If you use the vulnerable person’s physical health/mental health/disability/race/class/religion/gender/sexuality as an excuse for how they’re treated differently, then you’re an abuser and a bigot and possibly a eugenicist. And if you use your status to do this to people on a regular basis because you think that status makes you better than them, then you’re a classist tool abusing those without the status to fight back.
@i-ran-over-the-easter-bunny should read what I just wrote and read what they wrote again and have a good hard think about why they’re so eager to jump in and defend people in a position of power over vulnerable sick people. Why they’re so willing to dismiss the testimony of victims of systemic violence and abuse (neglect IS violence), and accept that medical professionals THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW are morally and professionally pure and never inclined to ignore, dismiss or gaslight the people in their care because it’s easier than actually doing their damn job. People with complex and/or undiagnosed health conditions often have to become experts in their own health because doctors often don’t have enough specialised knowledge to treat them without making the choice to educate themselves further, which many are just not bothered to do. It’s just so much easier to write ‘anxiety’ or ‘obesity’ or ‘drug seeking’ on a file and forget about them.
For an example, the average dignosic window between symptoms reported and diagnosis for Ehlers Danlos Syndrome is ten years. It took my partner thirty years and probably over twenty health professionals to get a diagnosis, and only then because we did our homework and asked for referrals for a specialist who could diagnose that specific condition. Even now, with a diagnosis, we are running into doctor after doctor who are convinced it’s another specialist’s problem, including a cardiologist who acknowledged, only when pushed for clarification, that she had an electrical problem with her heart, potentially serious, but that he ‘wasn’t going to do anything about it’. In those words. Tell me who’s faking it, who knows jack shit, who misunderstood something about a cardiologist who can’t be bothered to treat a potentially serious heart condition, when it’s LITERALLY HIS JOB.