Tag: captain america 2

Captain America, COLON, the Winter Soldier

[ I got excited about a fic I found and then proceeded to tell Jessie about it. She needed some help identifying the Winter Soldier despite having seen the movie with me. I finally set her straight, and then the following exchange occurred. ]
Jessie: I have to admit that I thought the main guy was the Winter Soldier.
Me: What?
Jessie: The main character in the movie. I thought that was the Winter Soldier.
Me: That’s Captain America!
Jessie: I know that now, but I was confused. I thought they were the same person.
Me: I don’t–
Jessie: You know, Captain America, COLON, the Winter Soldier.
Me: Oh, Jessie. No.

Actually in the commentary on the Bluray one of the guys talks about the ways that Steve is the Winter Soldier, so, she’s not totally wrong, just unintentionally meta.

wertherealones:

cassandrexx:

Someone else already talked about the iv drip in Bucky’s arm in this scene, but can we talk about the medical readouts? Sadly, I couldn’t find a single really clear screenshot – if anyone with the BluRay has better quality pics, I’d love to see them.

Overall, the displays are fairly cryptic, missing a bunch of what I’d consider important medical information, like clear displays for blood pressure and oxygen saturation. I think the big number in the lower left of the screen might be pulse rate – it ticks up fairly rapidly to 130 when the electrodes come down and Bucky panics. God knows why you’d want to display pulse rate to one decimal place, though, so it might be something else entirely. I don’t know what the other big number next to it is supposed to be, either – that one holds mostly steady somewhere around 60.

The screen to the right scrolls through a CAT scan of Bucky’s brain. Unfortunately I can’t get good enough resolution to tell you whether there’s visible brain damage there.

I’m most interested in the labeled markers on the diagram of Bucky’s body in the third pic, though, the ones I circled in red – because WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT, and what do you want to bet it’s implants? We see Bucky with his shirt off, so we already know there’s no injury there (well, there might be broken ribs, I suppose), and he doesn’t have visible electrodes attached, either. So. Implants. Trackers. Chemical reservoirs. Remotely triggered self-destruct mechanisms.

Because the goddamn metal arm just wasn’t enough of a violation of Bucky’s bodily integrity.

Holy fuck I’ve been waiting for someone to comment on this for an eternity

Hello. I also agree. I’ve never understood the fanfiction of Bucky being unable to take care of himself. Bucky has always been able to survive. He has the mental and physical wounds to prove it. What he does with this new information is the question. The Theme of The Winter Soldier playing in the background during the end of Captain America 2. This is A man who is going to want revenge for what was done to him.

spiderfire47:

thedevilsbaklava:

verysharpteeth:

Bucky doesn’t have a very long turn around time when it comes to adapting. It’s one of his talents. But he’s still Bucky and he’s going to want to dish it out to HYDRA.

The vault scene mashed a lot of hurt-comfort buttons. It was a pivotal moment in the Winter Soldier’s onscreen characterization, and that moment was one of confusion and disorientation, capped with screaming horror.

I’m fully convinced that Bucky was processing his flashbacks and coping (ish) with a PNES conversion disorder. For me, the seemingly childlike psychology was a transient state, not a useful representation of Bucky’s typical state of mind – or his ability to function. I’ve avoided the helpless-kitten fics and posts. I can understand where they come from, but they’re not my headcanon, not my kink, not my Bucky.

The Bucky I know would’ve stolen some nondescript clothing from a shop while everyone else was trying to figure out why the sky was falling into the Potomac. The Bucky I know had a new mission – information. The Bucky I know will have kicked so much ass before we get to Cap 3 that it makes me want to weep with joy.

I also prefer the capable post-WS Bucky. Even during his winter soldier time, I feel like – he commands a strike team, he plans the missions, he executes solo missions.  Pierce turns him loose after Natasha and Cap and says he has ten hours.  That’s a pretty big window for him to work in – he must have had a snack and a bottle of water. If they had him on such a tight leash that he could not feed himself, he would have had a much shorter window to execute that order, I would think.  

I think the @thedevilsbaklava has it right.  I think the bankvault scene is a huge anomaly for the character but it is so powerfully acted by Stan, Redford, Grillo, and others that it pushes a lot of buttons for us.  I don’t think that child-like desperation, that seeking of answers – is at all typical for the character.  But because it is all we the audience see, it colors our perspective a lot.  

Yes, they do a job on him, but his subjective time as Winter Soldier is what?  Maybe a couple of years.  Five years tops.  He was a highly capable, functional adult when they got their hands on him.  He’s not like comic!Natasha, whose brainwashing and training started when she was a child.  He’s not even like comic!Bucky who started black ops as a teen.  MCU!Bucky has a lot more to fall back on in terms of life experience outside the military.  

jabberwockypie:

agt-sharon:

verysharpteeth:

jenngeek:

doktorfylthe:

Characterization done right.

Steve Rogers in a single gif.

We joke about Steve’s patriotism as his strong suit, but his actual strength was his sense of moral right. His whole philosophy is summed up in the line “I don’t like bullies” in the first movie. Steve loves his country. He loves it enough to be at the front of the line trying to fix what he sees as moral wrong in it.

Steve Rogers stands for what America only tells itself it stands for

Steve’s facial expression is saying “This is COMPLETE bullshit.”

TBH, most of Steve’s expressions in the MCU so far express what flavour of bullshit he’s smelling at that instant, unless he’s talking to Sam or Peggy,